you should also know that 11 gun massacres occurred in the decade before awe stral yee national firearms act and there have been zero mass shootings since, according to the study published in 2009. of course, can that kind of proven policy response is not your thing, there's those like wayne la pierre that have different ideas like packing public schools with armed security officers, a notion so far afield the neerk post, owned by the right-wing but pro gun safety, require perth murdoch printed this page yesterday for the coverage of the news conference calling him a "gun nut" and a "loon." so now the big question is, what kind of regulation will actually work? what can proposals for effective regulation survive the political obstacles that men like la pierre willy to its way. we have the mayor from philadelphia, former governor of new jersey, james florio and it's great to have you all at the table. so, what works? what now? what do we do? governor? >> in nmg knowledge we have the toughest assault weapon ban in the nation and we got it through because we dealt with reality. the reality